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#361•28/Ago/2007, 14:32
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Escrito originalmente por Balduino
La entrada de Smolareck es roja. De eso no cabe duda, es un taklé y el reglamento lo deja claro en este aspecto. Si toca balón es libre indirecto en su contra; si no toca balón, ni jugador es libre indirecto en su contra y tarjeta amarilla; y si toca jugador es libre directo y tarjeta roja. Otra cosa es lo que se pita en España, que a mi juicio existe un nivel muy pobre, y cada vez lo es más porque el Comité técnico de Árbitros funciona peor que una patera en alta mar.

La regla número XII del reglamento y sus comentarios por la FIFA lo podreis encontrar. A mi juicio no existe duda alguna... por cierto, si lo llega hacer vuestro amigo Aganzo os lo tomariais tan bien como con Smolareck??? ...Marcelino tenia un cabreo considerable el domingo con Ebi puesto que dejó al equipo con 10 y durante todo el partido el Racing se caracterizó por no hacer ni una mala entrada... en fin ánimo Ebi!!!!

Saludos!!!
Baldu, eso no lo dice la regla XII, tocar el balon  no es algo que cambie las cosas, la intencion tambien cuenta

Voy a poner aqui las justificaciones por las que es expulsion, sacadas de dicha regla (Faltas e Incorrecciones):

Se concederá un tiro libre al equipo adversario si un jugador comete una de las siguientes infracciones de una manera que el árbitro considere imprudente, temeraria o con el uso de una fuerza excesiva:
  • golpear o intentar golpear a un adversario
Un jugador, sustituto o sustituido será expulsado y recibirá la tarjeta roja si comete una de las siguientes siete infracciones:
1. ser culpable de juego brusco grave

Decisión 4
Una entrada que ponga en peligro la integridad física de un adversario deberá ser sancionada como juego brusco grave.

Redaccion de la expulsion en el acta:
+ En el minuto 69 el jugador (12) Euzebiusz, Smolarek fue expulsado por el siguiente motivo: entrar a un adversario con ambos pies en forma de "plancha" a la altura de la rodilla, derribándole.


Ahora juzgarlo vosotros mismos, yo la verdad que lo tengo muy claro



Esa norma así sin más, se puede aplicar de mil formas. Una entrada que ponga en peligro la integridad física de un adversario (que según reglamento es roja), puede ser casi cualquier falta. Lo importante, es ¿como se aplica aquÍ? Se sacan rojas todo ese tipo de entradas? No.
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#362•28/Ago/2007, 22:03

smolarek por lo que vi el domingo juega bastante bien

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#363•28/Ago/2007, 22:05
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smolarek por lo que vi el domingo juega bastante bien
sii??? no jodas joe que wena noticia tio  ¡¡¡ toma yaaa!!!
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#364•28/Ago/2007, 22:21
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smolarek por lo que vi el domingo juega bastante bien
Te lo juro que ya llego a la desesperación.. como que jugo bastante bien si salio 10 minutos y le expulsaron.
Aparte no entiendo como a un tio que se le expulsa a los 10 minutos de su debut, 22.000 personas le aplauden..
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#365•28/Ago/2007, 22:26

En mi opinionQuiza porque hay que apoyar a los jugadores y para eso esta la aficion hay que criticar por supuesto pero aun jugador que debuta ay que apoyarle y que vea que estamos con el si no lo acemos...
QUE CLASE DE AFICION SOMOS???

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#366•28/Ago/2007, 22:39

Para mi sigue siendo amarilla es verdad que entra fuerte pero tambien es verdad como decis que su intencion es la de tocar balon por lo tanto amarilla no roja otra cosa que se la quiten o no pero a mi juicio para nada tuvo que ser expulsado,a lo de que si jugo bien estuvo poco pero la jugada del remate a puerta fue contundente ahi demostro algo de su clase es un jugador que creo y ESPERO que triunfe porque tiene  cualidades distintas, es de esos que te hace subir un peldaño tipo mostovoi,valeron,etc  ademas tiene pinta de lider no le va a pesar la responsabilidad  BUEN FICHAJE SR PERNIA AL CESAR LO QUE ES DEL CESAR

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#367•28/Ago/2007, 22:50
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En mi opinionQuiza porque hay que apoyar a los jugadores y para eso esta la aficion hay que criticar por supuesto pero aun jugador que debuta ay que apoyarle y que vea que estamos con el si no lo acemos...
QUE CLASE DE AFICION SOMOS???
Tu tienes que apoyar a un parsona que nos deja con 10 contra el barcelona, apoyale cuando no le sale una jugada o falla un gol. Pero cuando deja al equipo en bragas no le aplaudas y el sabra que lo ha hecho mal. Y esperemos que no volvera a repetir.
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#368•28/Ago/2007, 22:57
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En mi opinionQuiza porque hay que apoyar a los jugadores y para eso esta la aficion hay que criticar por supuesto pero aun jugador que debuta ay que apoyarle y que vea que estamos con el si no lo acemos...
QUE CLASE DE AFICION SOMOS???
Tu tienes que apoyar a un parsona que nos deja con 10 contra el barcelona, apoyale cuando no le sale una jugada o falla un gol. Pero cuando deja al equipo en bragas no le aplaudas y el sabra que lo ha hecho mal. Y esperemos que no volvera a repetir.
ay q aplaudirle q es nuevo si fuese juanjo q le den x kulo pero siendo este....
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#369•29/Ago/2007, 00:10

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

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#370•29/Ago/2007, 00:14•Editado por d1ego82
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

welcome

unfortunate foul and deserved red card.
on the other hand, Ebi is a good player.

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#371•29/Ago/2007, 00:15
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Hello, Juice only 12 minutes we cannot do too many valuations on though in these 12 minutes estubo well. An entered wretch and a very demanding umpire I finish with his début.

If you pass hereabouts in one month we will be able to say something trustworthy to you on him.
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#372•29/Ago/2007, 00:17
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.
 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him  
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#373•29/Ago/2007, 00:26
Escrito originalmente por P_Munitis
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.

 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him


OH, it is great to see some people speaking English here. It was a bit difficult to register!!! haha. Of course you can't tell whether he is any good after having seen a player for 12 minutes on the pitch. I just think that it was a bit unfortunate. One thing for sure- he will not be the kind of guy who walks on the field, he'll work his socks out for you. It was very surprising for everybody to hear that he was leaving Dortmund where he was the fans' favorite. I hope I'll keep in touch with you and get your team better. 
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#374•29/Ago/2007, 00:30
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Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.

 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him


OH, it is great to see some people speaking English here. It was a bit difficult to register!!! haha. Of course you can't tell whether he is any good after having seen a player for 12 minutes on the pitch. I just think that it was a bit unfortunate. One thing for sure- he will not be the kind of guy who walks on the field, he'll work his socks out for you. It was very surprising for everybody to hear that he was leaving Dortmund where he was the fans' favorite. I hope I'll keep in touch with you and get your team better. 
We expect for all to adore him here in españa also since we also have remained without our idol nicola zigic (sold at the valencia). Sincerely I wait that smolarek puts so much or mas goals that zigic and you have reason and is a star player.

Regards from españa.
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#375•29/Ago/2007, 00:31

este foro nunca dejara de sorprenderme...lo que puede pasar en un dia...

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#376•29/Ago/2007, 00:32

Segun el Alerta, sancionado con un partido. Aparte de la expulsion de Smolarek, creo que Muñiz Fernandez es uno de los peores arbitros de la Liga y en particular a nosotros nunca nos beneficia, al contrario, nos perjudica.

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#377•29/Ago/2007, 00:32
Escrito originalmente por xungo_cubata
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
Escrito originalmente por P_Munitis
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.

 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him


OH, it is great to see some people speaking English here. It was a bit difficult to register!!! haha. Of course you can't tell whether he is any good after having seen a player for 12 minutes on the pitch. I just think that it was a bit unfortunate. One thing for sure- he will not be the kind of guy who walks on the field, he'll work his socks out for you. It was very surprising for everybody to hear that he was leaving Dortmund where he was the fans' favorite. I hope I'll keep in touch with you and get your team better. 
We expect for all to adore him here in españa also since we also have remained without our idol nicola zigic (sold at the valencia). Sincerely I wait that smolarek puts so much or mas goals that zigic and you have reason and is a star player.

Regards from españa.

q tiras de traductor? xq sino no entiendo como puedes construir unas frases mas complejas y dejarte palabras sueltas como "estuvo(es con v,  no con b)" o "mas"
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#378•29/Ago/2007, 00:37
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Escrito originalmente por xungo_cubata
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Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.

 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him


OH, it is great to see some people speaking English here. It was a bit difficult to register!!! haha. Of course you can't tell whether he is any good after having seen a player for 12 minutes on the pitch. I just think that it was a bit unfortunate. One thing for sure- he will not be the kind of guy who walks on the field, he'll work his socks out for you. It was very surprising for everybody to hear that he was leaving Dortmund where he was the fans' favorite. I hope I'll keep in touch with you and get your team better. 
We expect for all to adore him here in españa also since we also have remained without our idol nicola zigic (sold at the valencia). Sincerely I wait that smolarek puts so much or mas goals that zigic and you have reason and is a star player.

Regards from españa.

q tiras de traductor? xq sino no entiendo como puedes construir unas frases mas complejas y dejarte palabras sueltas como "estuvo(es con v,  no con b)" o "mas"

No encuentro el estubo ese que dices pero es cierto lo de mas y algo que no te abras fijado españa jaja... no tiro de traductor pero uso el spanenglish jaja

supongo que fallos debidos a el uso del español y que el ingles no lo uso hace un par de años
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#379•29/Ago/2007, 00:37
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Escrito originalmente por xungo_cubata
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
Escrito originalmente por P_Munitis
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.

 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him


OH, it is great to see some people speaking English here. It was a bit difficult to register!!! haha. Of course you can't tell whether he is any good after having seen a player for 12 minutes on the pitch. I just think that it was a bit unfortunate. One thing for sure- he will not be the kind of guy who walks on the field, he'll work his socks out for you. It was very surprising for everybody to hear that he was leaving Dortmund where he was the fans' favorite. I hope I'll keep in touch with you and get your team better. 
We expect for all to adore him here in españa also since we also have remained without our idol nicola zigic (sold at the valencia). Sincerely I wait that smolarek puts so much or mas goals that zigic and you have reason and is a star player.

Regards from españa.

q tiras de traductor? xq sino no entiendo como puedes construir unas frases mas complejas y dejarte palabras sueltas como "estuvo(es con v,  no con b)" o "mas"

El "jugo solo 12 minutos" traducido como "Juice only 12 minutes" le delata
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#380•29/Ago/2007, 00:39
Escrito originalmente por Alx_Santander
Escrito originalmente por gonso1985
Escrito originalmente por xungo_cubata
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
Escrito originalmente por P_Munitis
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.

 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him


OH, it is great to see some people speaking English here. It was a bit difficult to register!!! haha. Of course you can't tell whether he is any good after having seen a player for 12 minutes on the pitch. I just think that it was a bit unfortunate. One thing for sure- he will not be the kind of guy who walks on the field, he'll work his socks out for you. It was very surprising for everybody to hear that he was leaving Dortmund where he was the fans' favorite. I hope I'll keep in touch with you and get your team better. 
We expect for all to adore him here in españa also since we also have remained without our idol nicola zigic (sold at the valencia). Sincerely I wait that smolarek puts so much or mas goals that zigic and you have reason and is a star player.

Regards from españa.

q tiras de traductor? xq sino no entiendo como puedes construir unas frases mas complejas y dejarte palabras sueltas como "estuvo(es con v,  no con b)" o "mas"

El "jugo solo 12 minutos" traducido como "Juice only 12 minutes" le delata
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#381•29/Ago/2007, 00:39
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Escrito originalmente por gonso1985
Escrito originalmente por xungo_cubata
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
Escrito originalmente por P_Munitis
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska

Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

Many people think the foul was red card, but manu people think it was yellow too.

 I think anybody is able to see anything of a football player in 10minutes, after 3or4 matches we will tell you something about him


OH, it is great to see some people speaking English here. It was a bit difficult to register!!! haha. Of course you can't tell whether he is any good after having seen a player for 12 minutes on the pitch. I just think that it was a bit unfortunate. One thing for sure- he will not be the kind of guy who walks on the field, he'll work his socks out for you. It was very surprising for everybody to hear that he was leaving Dortmund where he was the fans' favorite. I hope I'll keep in touch with you and get your team better. 
We expect for all to adore him here in españa also since we also have remained without our idol nicola zigic (sold at the valencia). Sincerely I wait that smolarek puts so much or mas goals that zigic and you have reason and is a star player.

Regards from españa.

q tiras de traductor? xq sino no entiendo como puedes construir unas frases mas complejas y dejarte palabras sueltas como "estuvo(es con v,  no con b)" o "mas"

No encuentro el estubo ese que dices pero es cierto lo de mas y algo que no te abras fijado españa jaja... no tiro de traductor pero uso el spanenglish jaja

supongo que fallos debidos a el uso del español y que el ingles no lo uso hace un par de años

Juas!!!!! pues (lo que acabo de decir) traducir "jugo" como "juice" no dice mucho en tu favor , que crack
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#382•29/Ago/2007, 00:48
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLbcu_grMY

This is one of my faves by Ebi.
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#383•29/Ago/2007, 01:02
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Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLbcu_grMY

This is one of my faves by Ebi.
Dobry! That's the only polish I can remember. I hope it suits Ebi just fine. Powitanie!

Yeah, that's a proper adjective to sum him up. Where have you learnt it?

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#384•29/Ago/2007, 01:07
Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLbcu_grMY

This is one of my faves by Ebi.

"Dariusz", what can you tell us about Pawel Brozek, Rado Matusiak and Wojciech Lobodzinski? i am scouting these players since a few months and i think they will be great players in the future, am i wrong?

See you

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#385•29/Ago/2007, 01:08

I live near Gorzów Wielkopolski which is 70 kilometers from the Polish German border. North-west of Poland. Where have you been in Poland?


I've been to your country a couple times, and I know a few lines. Where are you from? (in Poland, I mean)


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#386•29/Ago/2007, 01:17•Editado por zuraw_polska
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLbcu_grMY

This is one of my faves by Ebi.

"Dariusz", what can you tell us about Pawel Brozek, Rado Matusiak and Wojciech Lobodzinski? i am scouting these players since a few months and i think they will be great players in the future, am i wrong?

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My name is   Dariusz (even though Dariusz is a Polish name). Mine is Marek   (Marc/Mark).
Brożek seems to be in good shape and has had a great start of the new season 5 goals in 5 matches. He still needs to learn how to score with his both legs!
Matusiak has just left Palermo where he didn't make it to Herenveen (I hope he'll succed in there even though Dutch league is not for him). He might be great but he seems to be too slow at times. Out of shape at present.
Łobodziński is the guy I really rate. He has to improve his passing which is too low and not accurate.
Do you want them all in Racing?
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#387•29/Ago/2007, 01:21
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Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLbcu_grMY

This is one of my faves by Ebi.

"Dariusz", what can you tell us about Pawel Brozek, Rado Matusiak and Wojciech Lobodzinski? i am scouting these players since a few months and i think they will be great players in the future, am i wrong?

See you

My name is   Dariusz (even though Dariusz is a Polish name). Mine is Marek   (Marc/Mark).
Brożek seems to be in good shape and has had a great start of the new season 5 goals in 5 matches. He still needs to learn how to score with his both legs!
Matusiak has just left Palermo where he didn't make it to Herenveen (I hope he'll succed in there even though Dutch league is not for him). He might be great but he seems to be too slow at times. Out of shape at present.
Łobodziński is the guy I really rate. He has to improve his passing which is too low and not accurate.
Do you want them all in Racing?

Just kidding, your nickname is Zuraw_polska, and Dariusz Zuraw is a polish footballer, bad joke, im sorry

PD: i want anybody in Racing!!, we have only 16 players....
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#388•29/Ago/2007, 01:25
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Escrito originalmente por zuraw_polska
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLbcu_grMY

This is one of my faves by Ebi.

"Dariusz", what can you tell us about Pawel Brozek, Rado Matusiak and Wojciech Lobodzinski? i am scouting these players since a few months and i think they will be great players in the future, am i wrong?

See you

My name is   Dariusz (even though Dariusz is a Polish name). Mine is Marek   (Marc/Mark).
Brożek seems to be in good shape and has had a great start of the new season 5 goals in 5 matches. He still needs to learn how to score with his both legs!
Matusiak has just left Palermo where he didn't make it to Herenveen (I hope he'll succed in there even though Dutch league is not for him). He might be great but he seems to be too slow at times. Out of shape at present.
Łobodziński is the guy I really rate. He has to improve his passing which is too low and not accurate.
Do you want them all in Racing?

Just kidding, your nickname is Zuraw_polska, and Dariusz Zuraw is a polish footballer, bad joke, im sorry

PD: i want anybody in Racing!!, we have only 16 players...

Yikes... 16 players might not be enough to play a game when some of them are injured. It was a good joke, mate!
How do you know Dariusz Zuraw? He is not that famous.....By the way I took my nick after Maciej Żurawski from Celtic.

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#389•29/Ago/2007, 01:29•Editado por zuraw_polska

 nosomosnadie,
Did you manage to keep up with the Poles when drinking vodka at the wedding party?

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#390•29/Ago/2007, 01:30

too many football my friend

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#391•29/Ago/2007, 01:33
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too many football my friend
I'm  really impressed.
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#392•29/Ago/2007, 01:35
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 nosomosnadie,
Did you manage to keep up with the Poles when drinking vodka at the wedding party?  

  Joder con el polaco, haber si monta una peña en Polonia que la Tenesse está muy muerta.  
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#393•29/Ago/2007, 01:38
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 nosomosnadie,
Did you manage to keep up with the Poles when drinking vodka at the wedding party?  

  Joder con el polaco, haber si monta una peña en Polonia que la Tenesse está muy muerta.  
Unfortunately, I can't understand it even after using a translator. But looking at the picture it is something friendly...
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#394•29/Ago/2007, 01:51

What do you think about of these brothers? I am sorry, but I have to introduce the policy in all de places...

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#395•29/Ago/2007, 02:07
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 nosomosnadie,
Did you manage to keep up with the Poles when drinking vodka at the wedding party?  

  Joder con el polaco, haber si monta una peña en Polonia que la Tenesse está muy muerta.  

Unfortunately, I can't understand it even after using a translator. But looking at the picture it is something friendly...

The Tennessee is a Racing´s organization located in America. The user Hologuachu wants that you create another group of our team in Poland.

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#396•29/Ago/2007, 03:27•Editado por wayne_rooney

Hello Mark!!
We can't tell you anything about Ebi's match because he was only 12 minutes on the pitch. When he plays 3 or 4 matches... yes.

What do you thing about poland foward Frankowsky? Where is he playing now? He played in Elche with Nino, a foward that Racing wanted to buy.

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#397•29/Ago/2007, 08:47
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Hi, guys.

This is my first post here. Just wanted to say hello and get to know about Smolarek's first game for Racing.
It seems that most people think it was a terrible foul by Ebi, don't they?
What are your views on him?

I think that you could tell us something about Smolarek, because you knoe about him more than us.

Otra cosa, comité de competición lo sanciona con 1partido

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#398•29/Ago/2007, 10:03

Porque mejor no hablamos en español? que coja el tio ese un traductor o un diccionario

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#399•29/Ago/2007, 10:35
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What do you thing about poland foward Frankowsky? Where is he playing now? He played in Elche with Nino, a foward that Racing wanted to buy.
El año pasado en el Tenerife.
Last year, he played for Tenerife.
L'année passée a joué au Tenerife,
Im letzten Jahr, spielte er um Tenerife.
L'anno scorso, ha giocato per Tenerife.
작년에, 그는 tenerife를 위해 놀았다
O ano passado, jogou para o tenerife.
去年,他打特内里费


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#400•29/Ago/2007, 11:29
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What do you think about of these brothers? I am sorry, but I have to introduce the policy in all de places...


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